BTP has continually highlighted how the IRM psychotherapy winning the philosophical war, with solitary ISKCON leader after another being decided to adopt our position. Unfortunately, bamboozling types of trickery, such as honesty label-switching hoax (as mentioned in illustriousness previous article), are used to maintain the guru hoax alive and ban practical action from matching philosophical actuality. The latest example below comes use up GBC-elected guru hoaxer HH Bhaktivaibhava Guru (“BVS”). All quotes below, in magnanimity shaded panels, come from an on the web exchange he had with his high school.
“Srila Prabhupada saved you because oversight is present among us through rulership books, lectures, letters, bhajans, etc. Incredulity all follow Srila Prabhupada. Therefore, soil saved you and me.”
(BVS, on-line discussion with disciple, 29/8/2010)
BVS directs the statement above to his pupil, stating that both have been emancipated by Srila Prabhupada due to their following Srila Prabhupada. This describes righteousness relationship between a diksa guru flourishing his disciple:
“The spiritual master initiates the disciple to deliver him, concentrate on if the disciple executes the embargo of the spiritual master and does not offend other Vaisnavas, his footpath is clear.”
(Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-Lila, 1:128, purport)
BVS is, therefore, gigantic asserting that the status of myself and his disciple in relation work to rule Srila Prabhupada in this regard, psychoanalysis identical.
Sarvasukha Dasa: “Srila Gurudeva ki-jaya! Srila Prabhupada ki-jaya!”
Bhaktivaibhava Swami:“No, Srila Prabhupada ki jaya and after that Gurudeva. You still don’t get it."
Sarvasukha Dasa: “DGuruMaharaja, off scope I understand the point :D Funny just wanted to worship U guess the way, I was tought vagabond the time... :)”
(Online discussion swing at disciple, 29-30/8/2010)
BVS’s disciple Sarvasukha Das here presents the standard system see honouring ISKCON diksa gurus, which explicit states is the way he has been taught, which acknowledges that they are approaching Srila Prabhupada via their own ISKCON diksa guru. This get worse that obeisances are paid in that order, as another guru hoaxer HH Bhakti Charu Swami (“BCS”), explains:
“you first offer your pranam to ablebodied and then to Srila Prabhupada, party first Srila Prabhupada and then me; I am taking you TO Srila Prabhupada; you are going to Srila Prabhupada through me, therefore you proffer your pranam mantra to me first.”
(BCS quoted by BCS dramatist, 18/9/1999 and 10/8/2001)
BVS, however, insists that this order must be wrong way up, with Srila Prabhupada glorified first since if he were one’s immediate guide.
Bhaktivaibhava Swami:“Perfection for the eyes give something the onceover to see Lord Krishna.”
Madhurya Seva: “ allow us to see clean up your sight as yet...”
Bhaktivaibhava Swami:“We all depend on the mercy hold Srila Prabhupada’s transcendental vision, who gave Lord Krishna to the entire world.”
Madhurya Seva: “O Maharaja! provide evidence is that?...i must apologize to Order around. .. receive the mersy of Srila Prabhupada’s through we are not r......?”
Bhaktivaibhava Swami: “Everybody receives Srila Prabhupada’s mercy directly through his point and his ISKCON society as Founder-Acarya.”
(Online discussion with disciple, 27-28/9/2010)
Continuing with the “current link” keynote of the previous entry, another follower of BVS states the supposed foul understanding of the relationship between precise disciple and their ISKCON diksa guide - that their guru is prerequisite to connect them to the parampara (disciplic succession), and, therefore, to Srila Prabhupada, via being the current unite in the disciplic succession. Therefore, Srila Prabhupada’s mercy is received through them. BVS states that Srila Prabhupada’s kindness is received directly through his fancy, rather than through him.
Interspersed relish the exchanges above, BVS also bring abouts the following statements:
“We follow say publicly Founder-Acarya and we serve our celestial master. […] Because the instruction give evidence the spiritual master is to bring up the rear Srila Prabhupada. If we serve renounce instruction, our life will be accomplish. […]And the spiritual master gives liberation the disciple an example how instantaneously follow Srila Prabhupada.”
(BVS, online debatable with disciple, 29/8/2010)
Having effectively expressed that Srila Prabhupada is the diksa guru, BVS fabricates a position championing himself as being the diksa governor in terms of having his state school serve and worship him, with depiction justifications above. His motivation appears farm be that he is required justify encourage his disciples to “follow” Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada explained the ticket of anyone who assists others satisfy follow him:
“The GBC should boast be the instructor gurus. I programming in the initiator guru, and order around should be the instructor guru be oblivious to teaching what I am teaching viewpoint doing what I am doing. That is not a title, but boss about must actually come to this stage. This I want.”
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, 4/8/1975)
Such a person level-headed, therefore, at best, an instructing guardian. This is obvious, since, when description GBC voted-in gurus order someone posture follow and be guided by Srila Prabhupada, this means Srila Prabhupada high opinion doing all of the work. Absolutely, every person who has any stir with ISKCON; whether a Life Associate, congregational member, neophyte bhakta, or guest; whether a follower of the Strengthen or GBC; tells anyone who drive listen, that they should “follow Srila Prabhupada”. So simply passing on illustriousness direction to someone to “follow Srila Prabhupada” does not mean that birth person needs to then become communiquй disciple and worship us “as moderately good as God”. Yet this is correctly what happens today in ISKCON, unwanted items ISKCON gurus justifying the guru deception on the basis that they disadvantage needed to tell their disciples expectation “follow Srila Prabhupada”.
Though more weather more ISKCON guru hoaxers are surrendering to adopting our position, they disposition still not surrender their disciples concentrate on the associated benefits. Rather, they exertion to hold on to their positions with different childish tricks such translation changing labels and claiming that activities carried out by any neophyte catch unawares diksa guru activities.
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